Tuesday, November 29, 2011

Part II "The Games"

Read Part II, pages 133 - 345.  Just like last week, respond with a minimum of five sentences to one of the following questions AND to another person's comment.  Your responses should develop a thoughtful conversations.

1.  The Hunger Games have been compared to" Roman Gladiator Matches/Duals to the Death."  Use your background knowledge of Roman civilization to compare and contrast characteristics of the two.

2.  Could The Hunger Games really happen?  Consider the following aspects if society:
  • Big Brother (for background knowledgeg, go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_(Nineteen_Eighty-Four)
  • Government control over citizens, harassment of citizens
  • Lack of privacy and erosion of civil liberties
  • Legal penalties for involking freedom of speech
  • Using people to spy on eachother
  • Dehumanization
  • Rebellion 
3.  What is the difference between Hunger and Starvation?  Which is the case in The Hunger Games?  Where/Who in our world is currently experiencing starvation?  Explain.

44 comments:

candy corn said...

I think that gladiators and the the Hunger Games are very simalar because gladiators had to fight to the death. In the Hunger Games they have to fight to the death also. In Roman times there was a king. In the Hunger Games there is a president. The difference between hunger and starvation is that hunger is uncomfortable but starvation will kill you. I think in the case of the hunger game people are on the brink of starving. I think that the hunger games could happen in the future because if the states were to rebel from the capital the capital would win. One place in the world that is starving is Africa.They are facing starvation because they have little money to buy food and any money the government has is being spent on their milatary.

Monkey Tongue said...

The gladiators and The Hunger games are very much alike. For one, they both had they warriors that had to fight to the death. But the Hunger Games had 24 warriors and the gladiators had 2 warriors.

Monkey Tongue said...

I am comenting on candy corn's comment because it is the only other comment. I really liked how he/she (I forgot who candy corn is) did all the questions and compared the hunger games rebbelion to our world.

Michelle The Sniper said...

I think That the Hunger Games and the Gladiators are very alike because the tributes in the Hunger Games and the Gladiators both had to fight to death. Although, a difference is that the Hunger Games has 24 tributes and there were only 2 true warriors of the Gladiators. The difference of Hunger and starvation is that you can be hungry but not starving. In the hunger games the careers are never hungry. Most third world countries are fighting starvation.

Michelle The Sniper said...

I thought Candy Corns was very good and was well put. I like How he/she (I forgot who candy corn is) answered all the questions

Alstar said...

I think that maybe someday the Hunger Games could happen because i think some people in America just like to have control over others. I feel like this is one of the main problems in the Hunger Games, because if The Capitol didn't want to have control over everybody else, then the Hunger Games wouldn't even happen in the first place. I don't think that freedom of speech is such a major problem in the United States as it is in the Hunger Games. it sort of felt like whatever they did would be monitered, and something as small as crossing private property under a fence would maybe get your tongue cut off. i think that it is a little sad, but the Hunger Games could also happen because I sometimes think that people LIKE to watch people beat up one another. These are some of the reasons that I think the Hunger Games could happen in real life.

Alstar said...

I agree with candy corn because they do all have to fight to their deaths. great one!

Fun Dip said...

I think the Hunger Games and Roman gladiator matches are very similar because they are both a fight to the death and only one can win. They are also very similar because it is not the contestants who decide to fight.The contesatants from both games would live in a society under one all-powerful ruler or set of rulers. Finally, these contest's purpose is mainly to nentertain the wealthy audience.
However, they are different because the Hunger Games are longer and have 24 people, while the Roman Gladiator matches had two people and were very short. Another difference is that Roman Gladiators had a small arena that was inside while the Hunger Games have a big outside arena.

Fun Dip said...

I agree with Alstar that the Hunger Games could happen, but it's very unlikely.

Summer said...

I think the Hunger Games could possibly happen in the future. Tons of people want control in our world like the government, so with all the rebellion that could definitely happen. In the U.S.A. there is freedom so I don't think that the Capitol would be quite as strict. For example, if we disobeyed the most unimportant law and the Capitol saw, you'd be in trouble. Death or not speaking for the rest of your life are just a few punishments. It is not fun to think about how the rebels to the United States could be forced to fight to the death, but it could happen. Hopefully that wouldn't happen NOW, but let's leave that to posterity.

Summer said...

Alstar- your comment is great. I totally agree about how some people like to have complete control over others. I also agree about how you said, if the Capitol didn't want to control everybody, the Hunger Games wouldn't happen! Overall I think you made a very good point!

lemming chase said...

I think that the hunger games could physicly happen, but it is verry unlikely. For one, it seems like a rather crude method of putting people in line. Second, erosion of rights is verry uncomon, and those who have eroded rights had shaky rights to begin with. Rebbelion is already happenning in far eastern countries wher dictatorship is king, but this seems rather unlikely in the U.S. because we are under a democracy and not a dictatorship (whew). In order to have government control of the people, we would need to become a dictatorship(and how soon do you think thats going to happen) and compleatly shatter what our founding fathers said to do with the government.

lemming chase said...

I think summer's coment was rather good because he/she(can't remember who it is) has many good points on why the games most likely wouldn't actualy happen.

spring said...

i think that the roman gladitor were not unlike the hunger games but not their exact copy. for example, gladiators choose to enter their arena while in the hunger games the tributes are forced to. one thing that they do have in common is the need for death. roman gladiators needed it for honor, the tributes need it to survive themselfs.another thing that is simalar is that they both are meant to entertain. in both sports audiences are involved and both audiences are chhering for the same thing, blood. oh nice use of spellind words summer

The Great White said...

I really do think that the Hunger games could really happen. I think that because if the government gained too much power they could take control of our county. Then it might lead to a rebellion and/or anarchy. So they would have the power to enslave the country and divide it into 12 districts. Then they could show there power by throwing kids into an arena to fight to the death.

The Great White said...

Response to Alstar:


I thought Alstar's was very good. I totally agreed with what you said about people liking to watch people beat up each other; that is pretty much watch boxing is. I also agree that if the capital never gained control then the Hunger games would of never happened.

SoccerGirle54:) said...

I think that it is possible that the Hunger Games to happen, because since the government already has control, if people got mad and started fighting, there is no telling what could happen. Although it would be pretty extreme who knows how the world will change in the future. I think if people got suspicious of things people would do something and it could start a big catastrophe. Also, if technology really does change even more the Hunger Games might not seem so remote.I think that the Hunger games would have slightly different rules though.
Alstar: I totally agree that people enjoy people hurting sometimes and that invasion on private property isn't always respected. Nice response!!

Macattack said...

The difference beteween hunger and starvation is that hunger is when you haven't had food for a little bit or you feel like you need food but your body can function without you eating food right then. On the other hand, starvation is when you haven't had food for long enough that your body can't function without food then and you are distracted very easily. In the Hunger Games, the case is usually starvation. But sometimes, people like Katniss, who can hunt and gather food, just suffer from hunger. Places in our world that are experiencing starvation include many countries in Africa. This happens beacause they suffer from things such as poverty.

Macattack said...

I really liked Alstar's blog because she used a lot of good knowlege to back up her main topic. Everything was made very clear to me and I think that she really took lots of time writing it.

Stewart Little said...

Yes I do think that the Hunger games could really happen, although it is HIGHLY unlikely. One part of the hunger games that I don't think would happen is that North America gets split into 13 districts. I think that the Hunger Games could really happen if the government decided that they didn't have enough control over their citizens. If that was decided then they would probably begin to strongly enforce their laws and make North America a harder place to live in. Here in the USA we don't really have anything that's too big to worry about. Seeing as the USA is a free country we are able to do more things, and if we break a smaller, more insignificant rule we won't get punished severely for it. Although we get some pretty bad punishments none are as extreme as death (unless you were VERY bad) or not being able to speak to anyone for the rest of your compliant life (not to mention the unbearable pain of losing your tongue). After reading the Hunger Games I definitely don't want any of it to come true. So as Summer said let's leave that to our future generations.

Stewart Little said...

Summer
Great job explaining your reasoning, I really could tell what you were thinking. By the way, I really liked how you used one of our newer vocab. words.

Beach Girl said...

3. What is the difference between hunger and starvation?
I think that the difference between hunger and starvation is that hunger is what comes when you don't eat your lunch, or you miss breakfast etc. But starvation is when you are getting so skinny and hungry that you are willing to eat other people and steal things to eat. In the districts that are poor, many experience starvation for lack of money. In the Hunger Games (the arena part), if you know how to hunt you will usually experience hunger, but not usually starvation, unless they take all of the game away or burn your hunting weapon. If you don't know how to hunt, you could definitely experience starving. In the world people are starving in Haiti, Rwanda, India, Somalia, and Malawi.
I think that there is a high starvation rate in Haiti because of the earthquake. Starvation may be caused in Rwanda, India, Somalia, and Malawi because of a decrease in food supply due to drought and government corruption.

Viking Queen 14 said...

I think that The Hunger Games and gladiators are really similar because they both have to fight to the death with people watching them. Another similarity is that most of the people picked for the Hunger Games are poor and I know that the gladiators weren't so fortunate, either. I would severely dislike being filmed or watched, thrown into an arena, and either kill someone or be killed myself.

I think the difference between hunger and starvation is that there are the same but starvation is more extreme. Starvation is what Katness faced before Peeta gave her the bread. I thing hunger is just when you missed a meal, or didn't get enough. Starvation is when you haven't eaten in days- the grabbing, noting of your stomach. There are many places in the world that have people who are starving- like India, and most of Africa, because of there poor ecosystem.

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Viking Queen 14 said...

I didn't think of that- people are starving because of the nateral disasters! good thinking!!

Allstar 20 said...

Their are many differences between starvation and hunger but their is one main thing that tells them apart. one thing that tells starvation and hunger apart is. Hunger is you won't die from not eating but you might not be able to work your best. While starvation is you are so hungry that you might die or you have had very little to eat in your life. I think that both starvation and hunger come into play in the hunger games because while Katniss was at the capitol she would only get hungry but at home she was suffering from starvation. One place that might be expiriencing hunger in our world today is Africa and the middle east in Asia I think they are expiriencing tarvation because they do not have as many resources as other areas and also most people that live in those areas are not very wealthy. I am commenting on candycorn because she answered the questions thoroughly and he/she (I don't remember who candycorn is either) didn't only answer on question but he/she answered all the questions.

Summer said...

Stewart little...
Great job! You had very good points. I agree that it would be very unlikely for North America to be split into 13 Districts. Also, you talked about how we don't have any main things to cause the Hunger Games in the U.S.A. I loved how you showed that you knew what posterity meant!

Tiger Ninja said...

I think the hunger games really could happen in a third world country and if thier government was led by someone who sees torture in thier sleep. It wouldn't be very likely at all but it could be possible. I would think if something like the hunger games did start happening our military would go and stop it.

Tiger Ninja said...

I agree w/ lemming chase that it would definetly not happen in our country

candy corn said...

Michelle The Sniper I think you did a good goob describing the comparison between the hunger games and gladiators

Anonymous said...

I think in the future there is a possibility the Hunger Games will happend. For example if there was a large war the government could make lots of laws and have the Hunger Games to show that they have control(just like in the book). There could also be a Hunger Games if people used freedom of speech negativly about the governments choices making the government look bad. Finally the the hunger games might happen if people are rebelling and not following laws. Then the government would have the hunger games to show revenge. If the hunger games really does happend I think they will happend far into the future.

Skating Animal Lover said...

Sorry the anonymous was me! Oops!

Lucy2525 said...

I do not think The Hunger Games could really happen because even though there are protests and such, the laws would never allow 24 people to go into a fatal arena to die with no choice and nothing anyone could do about it and let only 1 person be able to come out of the arena alive. It seems pretty far fetched to me.

Skating Animal Lover said...

I totally agree with fundip that, the hunger games is to entertain a weathly audience!

Lucy2525 said...

Summer I love how you used one of our vocab words!

Lucy2525 said...

Mrs. Howard, I found a typo in the directions when you said, "Your responses should develop a thoughtful conversations." I think it should either be, Your responses should develop a thoughtful conversation, or Your responses should develop thoughtful conversations.

James Blonde 007 said...

Question: What is the difference between Hunger and Starvation? Which is the case in The Hunger Games? Where/Who in our world is currently experiencing starvation? Explain.

The difference between hunger and starvation is that hunger is when you want something to eat and you are uncomfortable. Starvation is when you absolutly need some thing to eat and you will be in pain without it. One place in the world that is starving is Uganda. They are starving because they have a population that is growing extremely fast and they don't have enough recourses to supply enough food.

James Blonde 007 said...

Alstar- I totally agree with you. You made some very good points about the way that the Capitol controlled everything about the districts.

Soccer Girle 54:)- I agree that at the pace things are changing, who knows what could happen in the future.

Beach Girl said...

I agree with Alstar That the hunger games could happen, because some people do have control over others, so all of these people could eventually take over. Also, with all of the violence in our world today, these leaders may find it okay to have hunger games. While the hunger games could happen in the future, they could also have happened in the past. In the past there have been monarchies that might actually have thought of having hunger games. These monarchies could have established themselves as the leaders like the Capitol did, and then started a hunger games. If we didn't already know our history, I might think that this had happened.

Super Pug said...

I chose question 3. Hunger is a need or want for food. Starvation, however, is dying or perishing from lack of food. In the hunger games, these both occur. The contestants have a hunger for food and also a hunger for winning. The contestants also suffer from starvation. Starvation is worst in third world countries, such as Somali, because these countries are less developed.
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Exclamation Mark said...

The Hunger Games could really happen because the cause was a big war that wiped out much of the population do to the fact that some people don't like how other people act of what they do(the rulers). Those people like everything to be their way and they want everyone to be the same They will watch people at every moment; causing the people to have a lack of privacy. The rulers would not allow anyone to express their opinion. This is what is happening in The Hunger Games.

Super Pug said...

To candy corn,
I agree with you that gladiators and hunger games contestants both had to fight to the death. you used great vivid verbs.
PS you spelled similar wrong it's S-I-M-I-L-A-R

Exclamation Mark said...

I think Macattack's comment is correct, it is summarize quickly and explains everything you need to know. Also, Everything she said is true and i completely agree.

afroninja said...

I think the difference of hunger and starvation is that hunger is the thing you almost always get right before dinner. Then starvation is people begging for food, people begging not to die. Hunger you fix by walking to the fridge or the pantry. But starvation you don't have those abilities you would have to beg or hunt. Some places that are on the brink of starvation are most of Africa.

afroninja said...

I am replying to macattack iI like how you talk about how your body can't function in poverty or starvation. I like how you wrote about how they feel not exactly what it is.